2017 Pappy Van Winkle Release Map

Please Read: Each state is highlighted when one bottle is reported in that state. There’s a good chance that means that store, and a lot of times that city, is already sold out. This map isn’t an official release tracker from Buffalo Trace. This is a network of bourbon drinkers looking to help each other. Stores are dealing with smaller allocations and greatly increased demand. Please be understanding of this fact. Happy Hunting!

A few reminders to the Pappy Van Winkle Release Map.

  • I don’t have any Pappy Van Winkle for sale. Bourbonr is just a blog. I can’t answer “where can I buy Pappy Van Winkle”
  • I don’t know where you can buy it. I didn’t find any myself last year so I’m hunting just like everyone else.
  • The Pappy Van Winkle release map will launch next week. That’s the best I can do to help you find a bottle.
  • My thoughts on Fake Pappy. My thoughts on retail pricing
  • There’s no secret sauce! Everyone has been shut out on Pappy. Everyone has walked into a store with insane prices. And, everyone wishes it was available all year at retail prices. But, if that were true it wouldn’t be Pappy. I don’t make a Makers Mark Cask Strength release map for a reason.
  • P.s. don’t you love this time of year!

Love it or hate it, bourbon season is here. It’s time for the 5th annual Pappy Van Winkle Release Map! If you’re unfamiliar with the map, here’s how it works. I highlight each state when the antique collection is released in that state. Remember, distribution can be tricky. Because it was released in part of the state doesn’t mean you’ve missed out. The release map is another tool to help in your Pappy hunt.

For more info and to find other bourbon hunters join the Bourbonr Facebook group. I’ve also added the city which was reported if you hover over each state. If you’re  new and still trying to get your feet wet check out my post “How to Hunt Bourbon” This is a community-driven map. If you find a bottle please shoot me an email at Blake @ Bourbonr.com. Make sure to include your state as well as a picture of the bottle. I welcome any tips about state releases as well (Especially Florida 🙂 )!

Here are some things I understand about the map. Not everyone likes it or finds it helpful. It’s not perfect. Flippers may use the map. It may not find a bottle of Pappy for you. I get it. This is another tool to help you with your bourbon hunt. Bourbon hunting is more difficult than it four years ago. I still believe the release maps provide useful information. And, I enjoy the community that they help build. Because of that, I continue to, dedicate time to them every fall. With that said, Happy Hunting!

11/1 – Pappy Van Winkle is confirmed in North Carolina and Kentucky as the first two states of 2017. Washington D.C. has also report Pappy today

11/2 – Pappy in Wisconsin and Nevada

11/3 – Pappy arrives in Maryland

11/7 – Pappy Van Winkle arrived in Iowa

11/9 – South Carolina, Utah and Georgia receive Pappy Van Winkle today

11/13 – Hope you had your camping gear ready. Pappy Van Winkle released in Alabama this morning. Pappy makes its way to (Middle) Tennessee

11/14 – Pappy Van Winkle ships to Massachusetts. Pappy Van Winkle lands in Illinois (Chicago and other parts of the state)

11/16 –  Rhode Island, Montana, and Indiana receive Pappy Van Winkle

11/17 – Pappy Van Winkle makes its way to Arkansas, Texas

11/20 – Colorado, Kansas, Arizona, Minnesota, and Connecticut receive Pappy Van Winkle

12/1 – Pappy Van Winkle is in New Jersey, Missouri, Washington and New York

12/6 – Virginia is for Pappy Van Winkle. Pappy releases in Oregon and Mississippi.

12/9 – Nebraska receives Pappy Van Winkle

12/16 –  Weekend – Pappy Van Winkle hit in Florida, Idaho, Pennsylvania (lottery) and Michigan

12/28 – Pappy Van Winkle in Ohio

2017 Pappy Map


    Total Wine online sales of Pappy are through its Concierge Sales. After a national attempt that crashed the system, they are now doing it on a state by state basis with a predetermined amount allocated to each state.
    Sales in Florida took place on October 27th beginning at 9:00 AM and sold out quickly. Limit was one bottle per person.

    Pappy arrived last week in Michigan, I was able to pick up two bottles ( 10 & 12 Year old ). Canopy Bottle and Gourment has a 23 year old
    bottle for lots of $$$$$$$. They are located in Brighton MI

    I heard from a friend of mine that some little bird was told from some little mouse that over heard some hamsters talking to some gerbils that eavesdrop the head ferret that owns the local liquor store. The gerbils told the hamsters that he was telling the local rabbit that own the local farm that they are getting a very special shipment of some special juice in, in about 132 hours 2713 minutes and 8751 seconds. The gerbils confronted the local rabbit that owns the local farm that was talking to the ferret that owns the local liquor store about the special juice and the local rabbit said he didn’t know what he was talking about. I don’t know where I was going with this but what ever I just typed will tell you when Georgia will get it.

    I saw a bottle of Old Rip 10yr today in San Mateo, CA but I have to ask to see it out of the case to confirm it is a 2017 bottle…

    FYI there is plenty to drink in Los Gatos bars if you are so inclined. I saw it at four bars down there a couple months back while visiting family.

    I’m answering my own reply, but I can confirm that I held in my hand today bottles of the Pappy 10, 12 and 15 at the Draeger’s grocery store in San Mateo. Prices are $550, $699 and $999 respectively and they have one of each.

    P.S. I ended up snagging 2 of their 3 bottles of Weller 12 instead….;>

    Any details on the DC release that people are willing to share? Where they’ve had success, price gouging, etc. Also, I’m assuming the Maryland TW release announcement isn’t taking into account MoCo, correct?

    DC is seriously the worst. Liquor store managers see this shit as their holiday bonus.

    Even Schneider’s on Capitol Hill, an otherwise great store (love their 4R private selections), charges secondary prices for highly allocated bottles. Last time I was there, their whiskey person conspiratorially offered me a couple bottles “from the back.” A WP Boss Hog for 500 or a Michters 10 SB for 300. If I recall correctly, my response was “HELL NO!“

    Hunting in this environment isn’t worth the money or effort. Even if you find something, you may well be priced out of it. When I was hunting last year in DC (before I became the jaded and disillusioned dude before you now), I found a bottle of OFBB! I was excited until I saw they were charging 350 for it. Hard Pass.

    As an aside, MontGo has bottles of Boss Hog on sale for 230, or so says their website. A good bargain. I plan on picking up a bottle if the lotteries don’t go my way.

    SD is the worst. Only a couple distributors and they hoard it to sell in their hunting lodges. If you have weathly out of state pheasant hunters and access to Pappy’s you have same wealthy hunters come back the next year. I tracked down release 2 years ago to Corbon’s Grocery, worked with back room stocker to know when was coming, had bead on a bottle only to find out the owner was part owner with a lodge. I don’t even hunt for it anymore. Crap.

    Oh. Yeah. That’s pretty bad, having good ol’ boys groups hog the allocation for SD. At least in DC I guess it’s “available” if you’re willing to fork over enough cash to cover the shop owner’s mortgage payment for November.
    Though, too, one can also pay some exorbitant prices to have a dram at a few select whiskey bars in the District.

    All, spotted 12 yr. Van Winkle in Cleveland Park just now (Calvert Woodley Fine Wines & Spirits). One bottle – $399.00 – casually sitting on the shelf waiting to be claimed. I couldn’t pull the trigger, but wanted to let you know in case anyone had the desire to fork it over.

    Happy hunting…

    NJ retail for Boss Hog is well over $350 and it is extremely allocated. $500 is not an insane price but any standard especially when you are required to sell and floor stack every other WP that they produce at all times to even get on the list. Standard liquor markup was always about 30% and this is not much more than that.

    It seems the owners at WP realize it is worth that much and charge more to retailers where VW keeps prices low and provides a real bonus to retailers to either make some serious cake or to make some of their best customers very, very happy.

    Every state is different but this is an NJ perspective.

    Two things. How is the boss hog? I’ve wanted to buy it but never had the opertunity to taste. I love all there other stuff. Also I can get it for 350 all day so if ya ever want some let me know. Sure it can be worked out.

    Yes, Total Wine is distributing their allocation to members of their loyalty club. Get an email, go to a special page, enter your code and you can have one bottle until all supplies are claimed. California and Arizona were up today, I didn’t get a Pappy but got the Special Reserve 12 Year instead.

    Yeah, but their system stinks. I had a bottle of 23yr in my cart, had the credit card info all filled out and was literally pressing “Confirm” and by the time I did that, their system came back and said no inventory available. It was like they allowed people to steal the bottle from your cart depending on who checked out faster. BS.

    Exact same here. had 23, then 15, then 20 “sold out” each time I clicked the confirm button. ended up with a WLW. I wont spend $1 much less the, $4k I did this year, at total wine ever again(outside of nex years Pappy farse, as the GR membership carries over).

    Total Wine in AZ held an online purchase for Pappy and BTAC today. Limit 1 for grand reserve members. Expected for pick up in 6-8 weeks.

    Hope not as many of you got totally shafted by the TW (non) release fiasco we had in Florida. Worst conceivable administration of such a program. Time to build other store relationships that might be half fair.

    Gouging isn’t limited to Pappy & 12 yr. Weller. I bought a bottle of EJ Taylor SB yesterday here in Bloomfield Hill, MI from an “uninformed” store clerk for $57.95 (retail). Later, when I heard there might be more and returned, the clerk was gone and I had to pay THE OWNER $105.00 for his “last bottle”!!
    I asked about expected delivery of any Pappy. “Expect to get a couple of bottles”. I asked: “How much?”
    He said :”About $2,000.00″ !!!
    Any locals that want more identification privately, feel free to ask.

    @Cameron, Just out of curiosity, where was that in DC? I’m not going to buy at a 10x markup (would rather buy a VR setup at those prices), but I’d like to avoid whichever store was doing that kind of markup.

    TheBourbonWard – PVW20 capsules (the foil on the top of the bottle) are red, the 15 is dark gray/black.

    Watch out everyone for potential counterfeits, particularly from stores selling at secondary prices – they may have acquired their bottles on the secondary as well, if they’re selling them for that much.

    Incorrect. All 2017 Pappy 15yr have the red foil topper, as opposed to the previous black foil topper. This is widely confirmed.

    I can get Pappy @ less than MSRP but don’t bother anymore. Like I’ve posted here somewhere, it’s good stuff but not what it use to be. What made Pappy great was it was ONCE old Stitzel Weller juice. That was like 4yrs ago and them days is long gone. Now its just ordinary age stated mass production label. Good stuff sometimes yeah but, inconsistent and not worth all the bs. My go to of the bunch WAS the 10yrORVW stumpy. Always was red colour juice and creamy sweet smooth black cherry vanilla cola float vibe. Now it,s brown, bland, sour and harsh @ double the price. I don’t even bother with this stuff no more. I got my rural honey hole here in the heart of the bluegrass where I get a bottle of 18-20+ yr juice any day I want while hangin’ with a small group of some cool people who are way far removed from all this tourismo magical mystery tour circus. FWIW, instead of focusing on stress, waisted time, disappointments and loss of $s tryin’ to score on somtin’ that ain’t all that, just get together w/some of your people at home or bar and share some quality juice and enjoy the experience. That’s what it IS all about IMHO..Later

    Don’t you love the people who claim they do not care about the Pappy or other fine bourbons yet they took the time to seek out this specific blog about finding it and obtaining it and reading all the information and commentary? If you you don’t care or want it, why are you here? Just to rain on others parade? You care…

    Seems a little odd, right? The act of telling someone how much you don’t care and how dumb they are for caring usually means you care

    Hello all. No matter what, I think getting any PVP is worth it, I have sampled them all and they are great, but do I think other things better…sure I do. Having said that, I do have a bottle of the old stizer Weller juice. Old Rip Van Winkle from 2013. I’m thinking of selling if any one has a fair offer. Jlaczkowski@gmail.com

    So Delaware Total Wine had their on-line sale 11/2. I was lucky to gat PVW15. They sold out everything in less than 15 minutes @ slightly above retail @$130.00

    I found 1 2017 pappy 20 year today in West Virginia. The store was doing a raffle for it at $10 a ticket and already had over 344 entries!

    That may or may not be legal. Here in California There’s some weird law that says you cannot sell more value in tickets than the fair market value of the item you are raffling. you should research it for your area and call them on it(unless they’re giving the overage to charity).

    Anybody know when this is supposed to hit Illinois? We haven’t even received BTAC yet and we seem to be way behind compared to last year.

    I was in a liquor store in north east Illinois this week, and the clerk said the new Van Winkle would not be available until after Thanksgiving. They still have a bottle of last year’s 12 year old they are trying to sell in package with other whiskeys for over $600.

    Maryland got BTAC and Pappy in the first few counties. Seems like not state wide, as me and a few other MD Bourbonr are noticing. Scored an Old Rip Van Winkle bottle today. Still no word on MoCo! Drinking a William Larue Weller pour as I type this!

    Thanks for the update on Moco. Moco got another case of parker 11, just picked up my bottle from silver spring. with my primary objective out of the way, time for the stretch goals. what’s the status on PG County?

    I wasn’t ever in PG yesterday and none of my fellow Bourbonrs were either, so we don’t know. My one buddy, who was out of town got a call from a store he was on the list for. He thought he was totally going to miss out being out of town. He did though run into Brent Elliott while in Kentucky, so that’s cool.

    Damn, yeah-huh… Shaq(Diesel)!! It’s great to see such a big playa’ gettin’ the red carpet all down up in Buffalo Trace promotin’ the Pappy. Meanwhile, the real customers who actually pay the bills get the shaft up the yin yang for their loyalty. I bet he’ll (Shaq and blogging advocates) be pushing some obscure charitable foundation too no doubt. What a load of crap…Lol!

    live in Chicago buffalo trace sent me locations to get pappy its bull its bourbon probably not much better than woodford double oak

    Is there any possibility of a new to whiskey guy scoring a bottle in Delaware. I am by no means a top tear member of total wine, I didnt know if anyone on here had any luck with some of the smaller liqour stores around here? Thanks to one and all!

    I am an Illinois resident, and conduct my bourbon hunts in Cook county and in the surrounding counties. The PVW line hasn’t hit yet. But I know of several stores conducting their raffles before Thanksgiving. Which may seem strange considering some are hearing that PVW wont be released until after Thanksgiving. I also heard another, very interesting piece of information. Take it for what you want, but a reliable store owner told me that his distributor mentioned that The Antique Collection would NOT be distributed to any Cook county liquor stores. Considering that Cook is Chicago’s county, I find the intel I was provided to be very odd.

    Any help trying to get ahold of a bottle of 23 year Pappy for my military retirement ceremony after 27 years on active duty.

    Pappy arrived last week in Michigan, I was able to pick up two bottles ( 10 & 12 Year old ). Canopy Bottle and Gourment has a 23 year old
    bottle for lots of $$$$$$$. They are located in Brighton MI

    Any suggestions on where to look in North ga? I have asked around to a couple places and they expect it soon but no confirmations yet.

    Which County in NC? Wake County is doing a drawing for the right to buy the Pappy. They still have not done the drawing yet. They are supposed to do the drawing the week after Thanksgiving.

    Pappy hit Utah today along with BTAC, I turned down Old Rip 10yr and chose Stagg instead as they limited 1 purchase per customer of either Pappy/BTAC.


    Not sure where you saw this, but I highly doubt it’s here yet. The DABC controls everything and lists everything coming and going. Not on their website, so I have to respectfully call BS. So, unless you work for the DABC in Utah, I’ll need solid evidence.

    You can’t even look up the btac bottles on DABC now, and pappy was removed from the search…

    Hoping it did not hit the stores yet…

    Ken is 100% correct. DABC released both Pappy and DABC early this year. Bottles were showing on the website between 8:00AM and 3:00PM. Everything was gone by about 2:00PM.

    I owe Ken an apology. Sorry Ken. You were correct. I am emailing the DABC, local news, and the CEO of Buffalo Trace to find out why there was not even a mentino of the order on the state run liquor website. This Utah system is corrupt, and there are clearly people making money off of reselling these bottles, or charging horrendous amounts for cocktails. This is horrible.


    How did you know what stores were carrying the Pappy? I thought I was being very proactive this year but I failed…please help me with whatever information you use to locate as my efforts were in vain. Thanks for any information you can provide. Fjeckman@gmail.com
    Enjoy your Stagg and Merry Christmas…..

    Pappy and BTAC were released in Utah on November 9th. Pappy showed up on the DABC site on Tuesday, BTAC on Wednesday, both released on Thursday. Bottles allocated for clubs showed in the case counts, but not the bottle counts (2 cases of 23, 3 bottles released to stores). Distributed to Harris Ave, Sandy, Kimball Jct, Ogden Patterson, Pleasant Grove, and St George.

    I actually hit the BTAC lottery two years in a row. The first two I entered. Last year a buddy of mine won a bottle of VW 10. It’s possible.

    I’ve checked with all my contacts and nothing so far. It was this week last year for sure. Specifically the 18th in North Jersey.

    Pappy arrived in southern Illinois today and the allocations were significantly lower than last year,I would almost say about half as many from what I am hearing.i wonder if this trend is across the board or just an anomaly. I would also like to say this map is extremely helpful and a time saver for me as I really don’t have time to visit the liquor store everyday to see if it arrived,hopefully it will be back next year.

    Check this out. Pappy has been delivered in Cook county Illinois. A driver from the company that delivers Pappy told me a group of guys followed his truck all day as they were running their route. One of the guys would get out and try to buy as much Pappy as the store would sell him. How do people who work even have a chance with this nonsense going on. This group sounds like flippers not bourbon lovers. I have not scored a bottle in 3 years. Many stores will only sell it to their best customers so it is hard to score any bottle on Van Winkle bourbon, but I keep trying.😆

    Bruce, please forgive me if my comments are direct and crass. I have actually tried the model you described i.e. following a delivery truck. It’s not possible – the truck delivers and it takes another hour for the store to un-pack the shipment and display it, and by that time, the truck is on to the next destination. Therefore, unless the followers had several cars packed with a ton of people, your story does not hold up. People don’t follow delivery trucks trying to buy bottles at every stop. They find one stop that will allow them to buy unlimited if possible or more than one bottle and purchase. I bought earlier this week through a raffle and have an in with another store that receives a delivery tomorrow, and am not going to follow the delivery truck as the first store will take 1-2 hours to unpack shipments. Please focus on facts and do not spread rumors on this thread.

    Horizon is not the only distributor of these items. Atlantic is as well. Some stores did get it and released or have announced raffles and some are waiting for Horizon. The store in Rhode Island was Sandy’s in Middletown.

    rumors are swirling that MN got some in stores at Total Wine, but they do a lottery for it. I have heard from a few friends in the business to expect this week or next week.

    Pappy has made it to the Northwest suburbs of Chicago! I have a 20 yr waiting for me and also a Stagg! Oops…that’s news for a different blog!

    Funny Leonard, same post as on BTAC Release Tracker, just switched which bottle you say is for another blog. I wouldn’t count those bottles yet, waiting for you and having are two different things.

    Let me reiterate – those bottles are Guaranteed! I just have to pick them up. I was given my choice of any BTAC and any Pappy or Van Winkle bottles. Stagg and 20yr are the ones I chose.

    Weller (not 12 year) goes for $21 in Louisville… 12 year is rare as Pappy, check the Green Bottle Label… regular Weller (non 12 year) is awesome! A great buy, it’s called baby Pappy in Louisville.

    Pappy hit San Diego – Retail store asking $1,500 for 15 year old and $900 for 12 year. This is just getting stupid. I guess the .01 percent will be having fun.

    $900 for 12 year is to high…. tax is an issue at these prices too…. With taxes added 12 year old (2017) should not go over $500, without taxes around $425… I’ve been told Pappy 10 year old is not that good… stay away from that.

    @Ralph Wexler:
    All MSRP information provided old rip website is what they have provided to distributors. Prices may very in a different retail settings based on individual markup. If, in a retail setting, you see prices inflated to an unreasonable level please report the price gouging.


    Held a bottle of Pappy 12 in my hand today Gridiron in North Attleboro MA. They’re asking what appears to be a random price…I was offered it for $550, guy who came in a few minutes later saw me taking a pic with it and was told $650. Seemed steep to me for a 12YO so it’s still there as of an hour ago…I’m on the hunt for a WLW.

    Might be worth dropping in to any store I see a Horizon truck parked at :^)

    I have a huge list of every liquor store around LA that has Pappy. One of the stores got it this morning (the only one out of more than 100 that I called in the hunt). That said, plenty to go around if you’re willing to pay the $500+. Not a single bottle going for less…..

    November 17, 2017

    Pappy always release to Kentucky first, it was in Louisville two weeks ago…. As for the retail pricing toss that out, every vendor holds all ages of Van Winkle for a Lottery and double the retail price…. Some folks even pay for a Lottery ticket just to get club soda….. The secondary market has plenty, if you have the cash… If you can get any get two and sell one!

    Looks like just NJ. And everywhere I went on Saturday was gouging. Big box stores have moved on to lotteries or giving it to their best customers.

    Managed 2x old rip 10 and a GTS out of a spot I’ve been hitting for over half a decade. They got about half of what they’ve gotten in years past, nothing over lot B. Hopefully trying to pull a couple more bottles. This is in MA.

    Still nothing in NY State. Called around NYC and upstate areas this morning – no one knows when Pappy is dropping. BTAC has still not hit upstate either.

    It has made it to Colorado Springs Colorado. I was able to score a bottle of 12 year but that was all. They only got one case and it was gone that day they got it. So I was extremely lucky. I was told that they could not get the 23 year one.

    Has anyone received Pappy from total wine since the pre-order? Just wonder considering Pappy has been showing up in multiple states.

    Just purchased a 12 year bottle in Colorado for near retail price… Got the stores only bottle this year, but contacted owner in October and he kept his word a called me this evening to ask if I still wanted it–I was there in 10 minutes!

    Anyone willing to share thoughts on considering Hennessy Paradis as THE alternative to PVWs? Though its MSRP tripled in 20 yrs, it still IMHO can compete with the PVWs in virtually all aspects (aside the MSRP), yet at MSRP it’s “readily available”!

    I guess this link was placed here as a “tongue in cheek” commentary on all the craze that is “Pappy” this side of the pond. Point well taken. I actually have read the entire article. I recommend it as well to lighten the doomy and gloomy mood of most commenters here.

    Pappy has definitely made it to Arizona. Picked up a 10 year and 15 year yesterday. Was told they actually came in a few days prior. Saw GTS there as well x 3 bottles.

    CT rant continued from other blog…PVW pricing absolutely ridiculous at one store last night…PVW 23 @ $2400, 20 year @ $1800, 15 year @ $1300, 12 year @ $600….someone actually bought the 10 year ORVW for over $500…”criminal pricing” in effect…secondary market is cheaper!

    Yes, there’s a store in Middletown CT that carries almost the whole line of Pappy – if you want to pay like 10x MSRP. I was in there last year and chatted with the owner. He said he charges on-line prices for Pappy because he doesn’t want to leave money on the table. I told him this is a mistake for 2 reasons: (1) asking prices aren’t necessarily sell prices; and (2) much more importantly, charging on-line prices is telling his customers to treat him like an on-line retailer – meaning, only buy from him when he has something you can’t find elsewhere at a lower price. A brick-and-mortar should care about building up a loyal customer base for long-term patronage. He thought this was funny (??). Ironically, I had the same chat with a retailer in Goldens Bridge NY last year over his Weller 12 that he had priced at $185 (!!!). The owner there acknowledged he hadn’t thought about it that way before, said his customer base is his life-blood and sold me the Weller 12 at $50.

    I am traveling to Denver next week. I asked my cousin yesterday to be on the look out for Pappy. Here is her response today… ”
    What a hot commodity! I have my name on a list for it. Other store sold out its 12 bottles yesterday.” WOW… so close, maybe I will find a bottle next week.

    You missed it. had to be grand reserve by 10/06. sale alredy happened online. but at least you’re good for next year.

    No new states landing in 7 days….kind of strange that there would be a full week gap like that this late in the season. Patiently waiting in Michigan!!

    Congratulations and I don’t doubt your story but…….Are you just going to leave us hanging here? Everyone knows you don’t just walk into a store and come out with the unicorn of all bourbons (Pappy 23) plus three more super rare highly sought after bourbons. I mean did you follow the truck all day from the distribution warehouse or what?

    Spotted a bottle of the 10 yr old and a bottle of the 12 year old in Medford, NJ today. Wanted $499 and $599 respectively. Told them they were out of their mind. Also had a bottle of the Stagg. Didnt even bother asking the price of that. Ive been a regular customer visiting every couple of days for two years. Thinking about finding a new everyday spot to give my money to.

    I read about all the price gouging and realize this is one reason why having state run liquor stores isn’t such a bad thing. You have to go a little further out of your way for booze, but they just charge list prices. No gouging.

    Thanks. Found a ton of Pappy/VW 10 and 12 but crazy overpriced. Did manage to find 2 WLW at retail in Brooklyn so I’m good

    My regular store in NJ came through again this year. Got a Pappy 15 for $159.99 and a BTAC Weller for $129.99. Last year they got me a Pappy 23 for $399.99 and an Old Rip 10 for $89.99. Obviously above retail but didn’t have to deal with lottery or really outlandish prices.

    Picked up 10yr in Vegas today for $199. Hate to get gouged but still at half of where I see it on the secondary market so I’ll console myself with supply and demand reasoning…

    I found a bottle of old rip 10 year in Middle Missouri area today,I felt very fortunate as my stores allocation was extremely reduced this year.I called about a half dozen places and all had the same sob story that they received little if any this year.also I asked all these locations in Missouri if they had seen the Stagg,William larue or any of the antique BTAC collection and nothing yet.something to me seems different this year,I wonder if more is being shipped overseas to other countries is why it is so scarce this year.

    That’s why I was saying that things seem different this year,on paper the antique bottle numbers are up compared to last year but in the stores the allocations are way down.same thing this year I am finding with pappy as people who normally would acquire a bottle every year are finding themselves without this time,the pappy rye doesn’t exist this year which might explain some of this.since all this allocation stuff started I have never had to work this hard to find bottles.

    Just scored a bottle of 10 year in Rochester NY for $96 (Marketview Liquor). Twelve year went for $129. They received about 25 bottles in a mix of 10 to 23 year. Sold out of course. Said they received just one bottle of 25yr that sold for $6000 to someone in DC.

    Know one of the salespersons that held a bottle for me. Been going to weekly wine/spirit tastings for several years (and buying regularly) so it wasn’t a problem to get one.

    Ah gotcha – thanks for the info. I don’t know anyone there very well – just a fan and have been shopping their for a few years. I know they had a list going and I was checking in regularly but unable to get anything…maybe next year!

    Pappy in Michigan today! Picked up a 10 and 12 yr in the metro Detroit area. Sounds like very limited amounts coming. My store got half of what they did last year

    New to California. Can anybody tell me how the release goes? I’m from Oregon where it’s all state owned. Some stores have waiting lists, some are first come first served. It’s almost impossible to get because most liquor stores sell to bars first. The only good thing is that since all liquor stores are state owned, if you do get your hands on a bottle, it’s always normal retail price. Anyway, just wondering what Cali’s deal is. Thanks!

    CA is like most other states that don’t have a state-run system. You cultivate a relationship with a store, and hope you get offered the allocated stuff.

    While it would probably not be in BT’s best interest, I would be happy if all VW bourbons went to restaurants and bars. I am fed up with the amount of work we go through only to find that the same people get multiple bottles every year. I just visited my brother for the past 10 days. After a successful visit, we found a restaurant/bar with ORVW, VWSR, and W12 on the shelf. What a great conclusion to the trip. Of course, my opinion most likely will change if I ever score a bottle.

    Pappy is in Idaho. I just got my email for a bottle of 12 year — $69. One nice thing about being in a liquor control state.

    A friend got the email for a bottle of 15 year — $100.

    Bought one of two bottles of ORVW 10 that were on the shelf yesterday in NYC. Got a 10% military discount from the store but man was it still ridiculously expensive. Merry Christmas to me! Good luck to all my fellow hunters!

    Walked into a store on Monday night. A pappy 15 was on display. $89. I grab it with both hands. My sister went to same location on Wednesday, got a van winkle 12 for $64. Could not believe it. Called Old Van Winkle to confirm it with the code. It is not fake. The rep says that price gouging is horrible and consumers should complain and take the business other places.

    I know this site is for pappy hunters but I noticed a lot of the same people searching frantically for pappy also look for Weller 12.I haven’t seen Weller 12 all year but it was released today in Illinois in the middle of the state at 2 different locations quite a few miles apart,I picked up some myself.i just figured as how this blog has seemed to slow down a bit I would try to help somebody out. Also Elmer T. Lee and E.H. Taylor have been released also.

    Confirmed Pappy landed in southwest Florida yesterday. Local store is selling 10-$600, 12-$1000, and 15-$1500…absolutely unreal. I’m willing to pay good money for some 15 or older juice but geeezzz, this is ridiculous.

    Does anyone ever look for the Blanton’s straight from the Barrel? I participated in the TW release, and after a glitch with their 1st attempt, rhey ran the code again for GR members & was able to snag a 23 yr Pappy for $360. Not sure when it will land at my TW pick up location. I called this AM and they indicated I would get an email from TW when it landed in CA

    Total Wine email order confirmation said 8-12 weeks. The GR dash was in early November. If we’re lucky, the notification to pick up from your designated store in CA will be showing up before Jan 1……

    So…a little off topic here…but I just flipped on CNBC and saw one of their female reporters inside a BT rickhouse holding a bottle of PVW 20 year….the news piece was called the “ Whiskey Rush”, they were talking about Brown-Foreman and all the money their sinking into updating and expansion of the business.

    Happened to be in NJ this week. Stopped at Trainor’s Liquor in Cherry Hill. They have a bottle of 23 year Pappy behind the counter going for $2500. They said it’s been there quite a while. No need to wonder why….

    I would be very interested in a “allocated” bourbon blog,would anybody else beside me use something like that? There are tons of limited releases that I would love to find at retail pricing but by the time I hear about them the secondary market has already got ahold of them.

    Vineville Beverage in Macon, GA has a few bottles if you’re willing to pay a premium as of 1/5/2018. I believe he told me the 12 year would cost $500, 15 would be $1600 and 23 would be $2400. He also has a set of six bottles including the rye and every year for $7,000.

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